Tres Dias Secretariat Meeting

Torrington, Connecticut
Hosted by Central Connecticut Tres Dias

Saturday, October 27th- Sunday Oct 28th, 2007

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The 97th meeting was called to order in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit at 9:46a.m.

 by President- Bruce Cato. Parliamentarian- Bill Boyd.                                    

 The meeting opened with prayer.

 

 Present at Roll call were:
Bruce Cato, Pam Belknap, Jim Bailey, Paul Weis, Judith Herren, Don VanLandingham, Jeff Mehl,
Paul Markowitz, Eric Borman, Bill Boyd, Wilson Burton, Carolyn Davis, Harry Davis, Faye Gilbreath,
Ned Heffington, Jane Henderson, Valerie Mehl, Robert Myers, Jeanne Norwood, Adele Smith,
Richard Thornhill, John McKinney- Secretariat Executive.
 

Announcement: Paula Boyd (present) is the replacement for Tim Real on the Secretariat.

 

Absent: Theresa Dau, John Green, Douglas Pitt, Janet Biggers, Paul Dau.

 

Janet Biggers has missed a second meeting. Procedure will be followed in regards to the absentee rules.

Julie Bohl states an advocate may appeal on Janet’s behalf.

 

Handout of Reports: Community Highlights/ Minutes of July 29th meeting/ Treasury Report

 

Minutes: The minutes were read and several typographical errors were found.

Secretariat approved of the minutes with corrections.

 

Financial Report – 10:12a.m. Don VanLandingham gave an overall review of the handout of the report that
was given to the members.

Merve LeMasurier posed a question regarding the amount needed to replace the inventory. A figure of
$4000.00 plus was spent on supplies.

Discussion was opened on the cutting back of the amount of money that is charged to the communities.

 

Jim Bailey had a question on the reconciliation of checks and drafts verses the record of expenditures. He had
made a comparison from July through September and wondered if the expenditures were actual or allocated.
Paul Weis gave the clarification when he explained that one check can sometimes cover several expenses.

 

Motion by Wilson Burton. Accept the Treasurer’s Report

 2nd by Eric Borman. Vote passed

 

The meeting continues with some discussion about struggling communities that have a low level of sponsorship.
Some communities such as London and Moscow have had to cancel their fall weekend due to lack of funds
from low attendance.

 

Community issues and assignments Jeff Mehl of Mid-Hudson presents:            

Mid-Hudson assigned a committee to look over the revisions that were made in the pilgrims guide. Discussion
was presented on the following matters.

1.      The Lord’s Prayer: The guide uses the word trespasses. The committee researched the word trespasses.
It was discovered to have limited use in one translation. A majority use of the word translates as debt/debtor.

2.      There was a question on the accepted translation of the Bible for our use. Bill Boyd states that the King James
version is the established and official translation of the Bible for Tres Dias Incorporated. The King James of
1611 was recommended because it is used by the Boy Scouts of America and it is the Bible of the Anglican
Church.

3.      And Another issue was the way the 10 commandments were listed in the Pilgrims guide. It was stated that
different denominations used various numbering orders of the commandments.

4.      Jeff also raised the question of the emblem of a cross over the word “Son”.

5.      Another potential issue was the Prayer that begins – “Let your Holy angel be over me”. There was some
concern that this may be viewed as denominational.

 

The pilgrims guide is not an essential; however, the Policy committee called for these issues to be considered since
the reprint of the revised guide was done without official presentation and discussion from the committee members.

 

The point of this issue is that the guide should be worded in such a way so as not have a denominational bent.                                                                                                                            

 

Bruce Cato reviews a couple of minor concerns from the Community Highlights reports and then calls for old and
new business.

 

Discussion: Faye Gilbreath opens with a request for solidification of a vote on the electronic use of material from
the Tres Dias manual.

A request for a resolution was made for availability through a CD disc and online use.

It was noted that the Secretariat had initially voted down electronic use due to the copyright and duplication.
The majority throughout the discussion were in favor of electronic availability.

 

11:15a.m. - Bruce Cato called for committee meetings and requested that the respective committees review and
discuss the use of electronic availability of some of the T.D. manual material.

He further stated that the Executive committee is in process of redefining “Active Member”.

A recommendation was made to look into the possibility of a 10% tithe on Tres Dias funds. The revenue could
be used as an ongoing resource that would be available to help struggling communities.

Cuba was used as a test case in the expenditures of funds on behalf of a foreign community. The budget for Cuba
was examined through the recording of donations and expenditures on a spread sheet. Due to the examination of
the received and spent finances the program was well received and considered a successful venture. Letters, posters
and testimonies were presented from Cuba that confirmed further proof of a successful foreign venture. Bruce asked
for the policies and the procedures committees to look further into the Cuba Venture. The information may prove
helpful in establishing other foreign communities.

 

Richard Thornhill encourages the secretariat in foreign missions to help train the new Pescadores. He reminds
the Secretariat that several partial scholarship funds are available for any secretariat member of TD that is willing
to work as a team member in another country.

 

11:25a.m. Recessed the Secretariat meeting. The separate committee meetings began.   

 

Lunch Break  at 1:00pm and committee meetings continued afterwards.

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Reconvened: 4:32p.m. The Secretariat meeting is called back to order by Bruce Cato.

 

Judi LeMasurier, chair for the secretariat meeting, gives a greeting and a warm welcome to all attendees.

 

Committee Presentations:

 

Executive Committee: Pam Belknap presents.

Pam moves that Julie Bohl and Darla Meyer be added as voting members of the executive committee. They were
accepted.

The Executive Committee proposed a new method of community assessment. A handout was given with example
figures. No motion was called for since the proposal was issued for secretariat consideration.

 

The purpose of a new method of assessment is to give communities a simplified form of accountability. The new
proposal would also simplify the voting structure allotted to each community. In addition the new method lends
support to honest and fair reporting.

 

Questions from the floor ensued along with the following concerns: What effect would this have on International
communities? Would this method increase burden upon smaller communities? Will the new method affect the by-laws?

 

Several examples from old and new revenue and how the vote is affected were presented by Julie Bohl.
The presented examples were complete with affected monetary figures as well as recalculated votes. The examples
presented offered a fair monetary comparison between small and larger communities.

 

Those present were encouraged to review and consider all facts, on the new assessment method, in order to prepare
for a future vote on the proposal.

 

Services Committee Presentation- Paul Markowitz presenting.

A call for approval is given for Patrick Provost-Smith to be moved to voting status. He is accepted.

Paul Markowitz explains that their committee has reviewed the possibility of the electronic availability of some
of the material from the Tres Dias manual. They plan to submit their review for a vote.

The Pilgrims’ Guide issues would be submitted to the Blue Ribbon Committee.

 

Data Base: The committee was asked to look into developing a database template for sale by the services
committee in July of 2006, Ned Heffington and Doug Pitt are currently using the Excel program and wonder
if it is an acceptable solution. Bruce explained that it would be wisdom to consider using more current tools for
keeping information in a true Database format such as Access. Robert and Marcy Meyers will be consulted by
the Services Committee on this matte.

 

Submission of articles: The Services Committee wants to answer questions about International service.
A request was made for a submission of articles from each committee with a turn in dead line date of
January 1st, 2008.

 

Membership Committee: Paul Weis presenting.

Motion by Richard Thornhill - Move to accept Lorraine Huffnagel and Judy Ligon as new members.

 2nd by Faye Gilbreath. Vote passed. The new members are accepted.                       

 

Membership has created a Curiosity kit and a Start Up kit. The Start Up kit would be a package that is sent out
upon request to new start up communities.

 A change of name came forth. Curiosity kit will now be called “Start up Packet”.

 The original start up kit will now be called the “New Community Support Packet.”

 

The plan from the Membership committee is to create a “Starting Community Support Packet”. The idea is
to give direction once a new community gets started. This packet would lend structure to help new communities
and those that support them. The committee plans to add new material to the packet.

 

Paul Weis states that the new community in Western Kentucky was chartered.

 In addition, 25 communities are due to renew their charter. Each year the membership committee will send a
letter to all communities that are up for renewed charters. They will also notify the unchartered communities in
order to build the framework for chartering new communities.

 

Administration Committee: Jim Bailey presenting.

Cindy Mentz is the Chair Person for the Elections Committee.                                            

Charles Ligon, Brenda Aldridge, Stephen Decillis and Pat Maynard are recommended for voting members.
They are accepted.                                             

 

The Restoration Church of God is the chosen host church for the July Assembly meeting in North Atlanta.
(Roswell, Georgia)  The fall secretariat meeting is scheduled for Portland Maine and the spring 2009 meeting
will be sponsored by the Music City community in Tennessee.

 

One of the Korean Tres Dias Communities has extended an invitation to hold a secretariat meeting in Korea.
Our Secretariat is looking at the feasibility of a 2011 meeting in Korea. A current fare quote of $1400.00 was
given by Faye Gilbreath. It was recommended to look into the possibility of chartering a plane. A video conference
was also recommended by someone; however, another person recommended personal contact. This may prove
to be more acceptable in regards to honoring the invitation of that particular culture.

 

It was further stated that when the President of the secretariat went to Korea once in the past that the visit helped to
adhere the existing communities.

 

In July 2007 a Regional Secretariat was formed to help this particular foreign community remain cohesive as a group. 
Terry Gilbreath, who went as a secretariat representative to Korea, explained that Koreans are authority minded people.
They want to be granted the authority to charter others. The fact that they have been holding weekends for years
without a charter presents a problem. The secretariat should lend support that would grow the Korean communities
in the area of having the authority to charter. A document is in process to allow this to come about.

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Valerie Mehl, chair for the July 2007 Assembly, gave a wonderful presentation on the hosting experience. 
She heartily commended the spirit of the volunteers that helped to host the July assembly. Valerie gave an over view
of the potential problems and how to avoid them. For example anyone responsible for the airport transportation
should have the cell phone information of the people they are transporting.

Valerie recommended early registration as well as promoting staying in a hotel room in lieu of a home stay. 
She also recommended scripture to be placed on all printed material.

From a financial aspect, there was an accumulated amount of money left over that was turned into a scholarship fund.

 

Last of all Valerie gave a resounding thanks to Julie Bohl who was a great help by lending full support throughout
the entire process.

 

 

Bruce announced the end of orders for Saturday and states that the meeting will reconvene in the morning at
the Quality Inn.

 

The agenda for the 28th of October was reviewed and accepted.

 

Closing Prayer: Chuck Allen

 

Meeting Recessed at 5:50p.m.  

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Sunday, October 28th, the meeting reconvened at 8:45a.m. at the Quality Inn.

 

Reconvene Meeting:

Bruce Cato called the meeting back to order. Bill Boyd -Parliamentarian.

Present were:

 Bruce Cato, Bill Boyd, Paula Boyd, Judith Herren, Paul Weis, Jim Bailey, Jeff Mehl, Valerie Mehl, Pam Belknap,
Paul Markowitz, Harry Davis, Faye Gilbreath, Don VanLandingham, Wilson Burton, Jane Henderson, Adele Smith,
Carolyn Davis, Eric Borman, Jeanne Norwood, Ned Heffington, Richard Thornhill, Robert Myers,
John McKinney-Secretariat Executive

Absent: John Green, Theresa Dau, Janet Biggers, Douglas Pitt, Paul Dau                                                     

 

Handout of Reports: 

 

Treasury Report  - From Treasury: Don VanLandingham gave an in-depth oral report of the Treasury status

 Motion byWilson Burton Call to approve the Treasurer’s report.

2nd by Eric Borman. Vote passed.      


Committee’s Reporting: Policy Committee - Executive Committee - Services Committee
 

 Policy Committee: Jeff Mehl presenting.                                                                                                               
A call for approval is given for Sue Loveland to be moved to voting status. She was approved. 

 

Jeff addressed concerns regarding violation of the copy right when using the tune Edelweiss.

Everyone present is to remind the communities to refrain from using the tune to Edelweiss when singing the
Tres Dias blessings.

The Policy committee is working on a document to create guidelines for the Observer position.

It was noted that an Observer does not police a weekend. The observer is on a weekend only to observe.
On a foreign weekend an observer will serve as a team member. The policy committee is also working on
a procedure manual and will need each committee to turn in a policy and procedure report for data purposes.
The deadline for the report is January 1, 2008.              



Pam Belknap presenting for Executive Committee:

A call for approval is given for Julie Bohl and Darla Meyer to be moved to voting status. They were approved.

            

Motion: The Executive committee moves that an endowment fund be created by designating $25,000.00 of the
current certificates of deposit.  Earnings from said fund will be transferred to the general fund. The use of the
earnings shall be designated by the secretariat.

The motion was accepted and passed by a show of hands.

 

Tres Dias Fund: – Harry Davis brought some clarity on the status of NCF and challenges from Share the Blessing Fund. 

            The overview regarding this fund is as follows:

1.  NCF does not charge for their services.

2. All non-USA grants go through Givers Trust. (Givers Trust is a subsidiary of NCF.) There is a processing
charge that ranges between 4% and12% and the charge is assessed according to the country and the size
of the grant.  In the past, the minimum amount of a grant to be processed was $5,000.00 – that amount has
now increased to a $15,000.00 minimum.

The Benefits of continuing to use NCF: 

  1. NCF has great insight for organizing appeals and a marvelous ability to help with fund raising.

  2. NCF is experienced in managing complex giving, such as; stocks, real property, businesses, and other assets
    that are not cash.

  3. They are also unparalleled in helping individuals maximize the effectiveness of their gifts from a tax standpoint.

 

Paul Markowitz Presenting for Services Committee:

There was a call to approve Patrick Provost-Smith to be moved to voting status. He is approved.

The various issues’ at hand on the Pilgrims guide was tabled. 

Paul Markowitz submits the following motion. To put the TD team guide on a CD Rom to be made available to
all of the communities.

 

The CD Rom would have the following files;

1.      The complete manual.

2.      All outlines, purposes, and commentaries.

3.      The Essentials.

 

A special copyright notice would be included in each file giving established and emerging communities’ permission
to reproduce copies and restricting all other production.

 

 A call to question came forth on the vote for the right to electronically distribute the Tres Dias Manual files.
The vote passed by a show of hands. There was one abstention.

 

The services committee will make a decision on the dollar amount to charge for each CD.

 

A warm welcome to the Tres Dias Secretariat was extended for the upcoming Secretariat meeting In Texas.
The meeting is scheduled for Athens, Texas,March of 2008.

 

Jim Bailey brings a reminder that Officer Terms are expiring and he encouraged those present to speak with their
respective communities about getting involved through representation.

 

Bruce Cato opens the floor for discussion on the new proposal for a change in the current method of community
assessment and accounting. The purpose of the change is to acquire a better method of accounting.

Don VanLandingham will prepare a spread sheet for the secretariat to model an example of the proposal.

 

10:05a.m.:  Bruce Cato calls for the meeting to close.

 

Benediction: Chuck Allen

 

Meeting closed: 10:08 a.m.

 

Respectfully submitted,

 

    Judith Herren

Judith Herren / TDI Secretary

 

 

 

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Committee Reports submitted

 

Executive Committee Report 10/27/07

 

The meeting was opened with prayer at 11:45a.m.

Present: Pam Belknap, Don VanLandingham, Bill Boyd, Julie Bohl, Darla Meyer, Judith Herren

Absent: Theresa Dau

A committee vote was unanimous to add Julie Bohl and Darla Meyer as voting members.

In building an agenda the executive committee sought to discuss and resolve the following.

1.      To define, “Active Member” of a local Secretariat

2.      To find a better method of assessment of communities and votes allotted to each community.

3.      Discussion of the assets on hand, the cash balance and how to invest or spend the cash balance of accumulated
reserves.

4.      Review the concept of a tithe? Should a percentage go to the Tres Dias fund? 

5.      Study and discuss the viability of NCF.

Bill Boyd gave an overview of the last budget complete with interest, margin on sales, and accumulated reserves.

Recessed:  Lunch

Reconvene

The Executive committee came back to order, after lunch, with a discussion for the resolution of the allocation
methods.

Don VanLandingham opened up discussion on the amount of reserve cash. He recommended that we open an
endowment fund in the amount of $25,000.00 in order to avoid hoarding money. The secretariat could use the
earnings from this fund to help struggling communities or for some other charitable purpose.

This would ultimately go to proxy vote because it calls for a change in the budget. The proposed name for said
fund could be as follows; Tres Dias Inc. Endowment Fund.

The committee will bring the following motion before the secretariat:

 "The Executive committee moves that a Tres Dias, Inc. endowment fund be created by moving $25,000.00
from the current Certificates of Deposit. Earnings from said fund will be transferred to the general fund. The use
of the earnings shall be designated annually by the secretariat."

Assessment and voting allocation: After studying the current means of assessment and voting allocation, the
executive committee submits the following method for consideration.

A.    In lieu of using active Pescadores as the basis for community assessment, we recommend using the number
of candidates of the preceding year as a basis.

B. To remain revenue neutral, relative to the Tres Dias Inc. budget, we propose a flat rate plus a per candidate
assessment. In other words we propose a flat rate community assessment, plus a per candidate assessment.

C.     Consider the per community flat rate of $150.00 and a per candidate assessment of one dollar. (A handout
was constructed showing an example of the proposed formula for a new method of assessment.  A Community
with 100 Candidates would pay $150.00 flat rate assessment and @ $1.00 per Candidate equaling $100.00,
totaling $250.00.  A Community with 100 Candidates would have 3 votes total, 2 based on (100/50 = 2)
+ 1 for the Community.

D. This proposal, if approved by the Secretariat, would require a change in the By-Laws.  The basis of "N"
would change from the number of active Pescadores to the number of Candidates (in the preceding year.) 
Initially, we would propose N = 50. 

 

The Executive Committee asks all Committee Chairs to create and approve their FY 2008 budget as the first
item of business on the Saturday of the 2008 March Secretariat.

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Membership Committee Minutes

October 27, 2007

 

Present:  Paul Weis, Carolyn Davis, Faye Gilbreath, Jane Henderson, Adele Smith, Richard Thornhill, Suzanne
Heffington, Linda VanLandingham, Doug Jenkins, Barbara Truetle, George Truetle, Terry Gilbreath, Chuck Allen,
Sheryl Allen.

Observers:  Lorraine Hufnagel, Judy Ligon

Absent:  John Green, Mike Holmes,

 

Meeting opened in prayer. 

 

The minutes were read from the last meeting in Poughkeepsie , NY.  George Truetle moved that the minutes be
accepted, Faye Gilbreath seconded the motion.  The motion carried.

 

New Business:

 

The Tres Dias fund management committee was formed recently, and there is to be a representative from the
Membership Committee as a part of that committee.  Faye Gilbreath had been appointed to that committee,
but she has stepped down.  We now need to fill that position with another qualified person.  The committee
has agreed to recommend Chuck Allen

 

Faye Gilbreath motioned that Lorraine Hufnagel be considered to be a voting member of the Membership
Committee.   Richard Thornhill seconded.  Motion carried.

Richard Thornhill motioned that Judy Ligon be considered to be a voting member of the Membership
Committee.  Chuck Allen seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

Northern Ireland presented material requesting to be chartered.  Paul reviewed some of the legal document
that is unique to the country of Ireland.  At this time, they have not presented sufficient documents to be chartered.

 

Emerging Communities:

Vancouver Island, BC; Ottawa, Canada; Foothills, GA; Greater Orlando; Minnesota; Sabine Creek, TX;
Carolina Seaside; Peru; Costa Rica, Ireland, Havana, Cuba; Lima Peru; Montego Bay, St. Petersburg,
Russia; Albany, NY.

 

Inquires:  Portland, OR, Gonzales, TX; Las Vegas, NV; Idaho; Washington State

 

Paul spent some time talking about new communities that are beginning to form, seeds that are being planted,
and the ripple effect of upstart communities.  We have several Spanish speaking communities already, and
several possibilities on the horizon where seeds are being planted.  He also recapped some of the history of
the Korean communities and the efforts of the Membership Committee to stay in touch with them, perhaps
with a regional area board to keep those communities under the International Tres Dias organization.

 

Discussed the Curiosity Kit and Start-up Kit (which is a “get ready to charter kit”) are supposed to have
been created in place.  The actual Start up kit which prepares communities to have by-law, Policies and
Procedures, how to apply for a 501 3c, Essentials Training, what you need to have in place for chartering
with Tres Dias International has not yet been created.

 

Paul would like to see guidelines or a check list for start up communities.

 

Western Kentucky Tres Dias applied to be chartered.  Paul said he received all the necessary documents
and everything is in order.  Adele moved that we charter WKTD.  Jane Henderson seconded.  Motion carried. 
Western KY is now a chartered Tres Dias community. 

 

Paul asked Terry Gilbreath to download the sample by-laws from the tresdias.org website and add the
paragraph (section 6 of the existing TDI by-laws) referring to Christian lifestyle, and then send the updated
document to John McKinney to be posted online.

 

Some of the expenses of the Membership committee have been transportation for training in various locations. 
Also, we have paid for some international folks to come to the states for Tres Dias experience and training.

 

Paul said he has sent a letter to all the communities regarding charter and simply keeping a line of communication
open.  He believes this annual contact is more useful than simply contacting communities when it is time to
re-charter.  As a part of this letter, he can re-state the need for the community to schedule and give an Essentials
training with a TDI certified Essentials Trainer.

Another new component for TDI certified Essentials trainers would be to fill out a feedback form after giving
an Essentials training.  This would be used to verify that the community has been trained, but also will give
the Membership Committee valuable feedback regarding the workshop.

 

Paul hopes to have templates ready for future Membership Committees.  He would like to see a sub committee
for start up support to assist communities in sponsoring new communities.  This would be an on-going support
in addition to the documents in a start up kit.

 

Paul currently has a data spread sheet for all the communities, listing when they last chartered, and when they
last had a TDI Essentials Training.  He may consider adding a section for communities who are sponsoring
a new community.

 

Old Business:

The committee brainstormed the items for the curiosity and start up kits.

Richard made a motion that we re-name the “Curiosity Kit” to “Start Up Packet” and the original “Start Up Kit”
to “New Community Support Packet Faye Gilbreath seconded the motion. Motion passed.

Sheryl Allen motioned that we include the Emerging Community Agreement in the Start Up Packet. 
George Truetle seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

COMPONENTS FOR THE KITS:

“Start-Up Packet” (formerly “Curiosity Kit”)

  1. Tres Dias Statement of Beliefs
  2. Mission Statement
  3. The DVD
  4. By-Laws
  5. Essentials
  6. Tres Dias Guide For Team Members
  7. Pilgrim’s  Guide
  8. Reunion Group Card
  9. Emerging Community Agreement

 


“New Community Support Packet” (formerly “Start Up Kit”) tentative contents:

  1. Emerging Community Agreement
  2. Organizational structure of local Secretariat
  3. How to obtain a 501(c)3 non-profit meeting
  4. How to conduct Secretariat meetings (Board of Directors)
  5. How to obtain CCLI
  6. Opening a bank account info/ Post Office Box
  7. Document of Recommendation and Guidelines (keep simple)
  8. Budget issues (cost of weekend, overhead)
  9. Guidelines for Sponsorship and Reunion Groups
  10. Assessment and location of camp
  11. Team make up
  12. Local Policies And Procedures
    1. service descriptions
    2. time line
    3. weekend script/schedule

13.  Inventory

Guidelines and Recommendation for Sponsoring Communities

 

  1. Prayer
  2. Liaison (shepherding)
  3. Weekend Items
    1. Cross for Chapel
    2. Pescadores crosses, medical supplies, pilgrims guides
    3. Inventory Sheet for various service areas

4. Support the community for 2-4 years.

 

 

Faye Gilbreath motioned that we adjourn.  Richard Thornhill seconded the motion.  Faye closed our meeting
in prayer.

 

 

Policy Committee Report - October 27, 2007 -Torrington, CT

 

A meeting of the Policy Committee was called to order by Chairman Jeff Mehl with prayer at 11:30 am at
St. Paul’s Lutheran Church in Torrington, CT.

ATTENDANCE: 

 

Ø  VOTING MEMBERS PRESENT: 

o   A. Charles Allen (stephenson@intrastar.net)

o   Wilson Burton (huntandfish@comcast.net)

o   Harry Davis (hed_vmi@alltel.net)

o   Jeff Mehl (jeff@jmehl.com)

o   Marcy Meyers (mctd2003@aol.com)

o   Robert Meyers (mctd2003@aol.com)

o   Dave Routzon (daver@bcs100.com)

Ø  OBSERVERS PRESENT: 

o   Peter Brown  (pbrown654@sbcglobal.net)

o   Sue Loveland (sueloved40@hotmail.com)

o   Jeff Mentz  (jeffcin@frontiernet.net)

o   Ernst Schirmer (no email address)

 

Ø  ABSENT:

o   Mary Bailey (mbailey@admin.fsu.edu)

o   Paul Dau (pauldau2u@aol.com)

o   Bob Decker (jbdecker2@yahoo.com)

o   Denver Henderson (denver49@juno.com)

MINUTES OF THE PRIOR MEETING:  The minutes of the July, 2007 meeting in Mid Hudson were
previously submitted to all committee members via email for review prior to this meeting.  The minutes were
accepted as written.  (Motion by Dave Routzon, seconded by Harry Davis).

 

REQUESTS FOR COMMITTEE VOTING STATUS:  Sue Loveland requested voting status.

 

BAPTISMS ON WEEKENDS:  Although not on the agenda for discussion by Policy Committee,
President Bruce Cato came and addressed the issue of Baptism on weekends.  The Spiritual Director 
should encourage candidates to return to their own church for Baptism.  This issue will not be entertained
for discussion at any International Secretariat Meeting.

 

EDELWEISS COPYRIGHT ISSUE:  Jeff reported that President Bruce Cato forwarded information
indicating that the blessings sung to the tune of Edelweiss, practiced by some communities at mealtimes,
is a copyright violation.  In response, Jeff sent a memo to all voting Policy Committees for consensus. 
That memo was then sent to all community chairmen/presidents, delegates and Secretariat members dated
September 20, 2007 instructing them to immediately cease this practice.

 

-          A copy of the memo is attached.

 

Discussions ensued in which it was noted that some community Presidents have indicated they do not feel
it is a violation.  In addition, Robert Myers began a discussion on CCLI and what it does and does not
cover; noting that when a license is no longer valid, the materials with that CCLI number must be destroyed.   
This may have implications for Tres Dias since TDI used to have a CCLI number and those music books
may still be in circulation. 

 

Jeff noted that, in hindsight, this issue should have been initially referred to the Executive Committee since it
deals with legal issues which are outside of the purview of the Policy Committee.  As such, a recommendation
will be made to refer any further action or follow-up to the Executive Committee.

 

GUIDELINES FOR OBSERVERS

 

Dave read the document he has prepared in follow-up to the July meeting.  It was noted that this document
will be a guideline/recommendation and not a policy or requirement.  The communities will be encouraged to
develop their own policies, with this document simply being a tool to help that process.

 

The committee recessed for lunch with prayer at 12:30 pm and reconvened at 1:30 pm.

 

There was a lengthy conversation about the topic of pescadores going to other communities to observe
weekends for the purpose of observing the non-Essential dynamics that make each community’s program
unique.  Everyone agreed it is a good program with positive benefits to both the sending and receiving
communities.  Questions and comments included issues such as:

 

-          Is anyone “in charge” of this program? 

-          How is TDI made aware of struggling domestic communities? 

-          Is an observer from a strong community sent to a struggling community? 

-          How do we communicate these needs? 

-          Should this information be on the International Website?   

-          Communication is the key!

 

Wilson read a variation of Dave’s document he created concerning “cross-pollination” in Tres Dias,
attempting to combine international team service with domestic observing in the same document. 
In some ways both documents are similar and in some ways they are very different. 

 

It was pointed out that this now expands the scope beyond our original intent.  In an effort to focus
the conversation, Jeff requested a vote to determine if we should attempt to combine both programs
into one document, or to create two separate documents addressing each issue.  The vote was 3-3
with the Chair casting the deciding vote in favor of two documents.  Dave volunteered to review Wilson’s
draft, wordsmith both documents, and attempt to obtain consensus via email with the goal of having a
final document available for the March meeting.

 

POLICY/PROCEDURE MANUAL

 

Robert and Marcy Myers reported on their progress, noting that they now need further direction as this
will be a multi-step process:

 

They noted the database of Secretariat minutes is complete from 1990 through the end of 2006 and
that they now need further direction; noting that this will require multiple steps to full completion:

 

STEP 1) 

DATABASE OF SECRETARIAT MINUTES FOR USE BY THE SECRETARY:  This will be
complete as of the March meeting.  At that time, the database will be provided to the Secretary with
instructions on how to use it to search for required information.  There will be sufficient search criteria
that the Secretary will now be able to quickly locate past motions in minutes.  A hard copy will also be
made available to the Secretary.

STEP 2) 

POLICY/PROCEDURE COMPONENT FOR USE BY THE COMMUNITIES:  This will be
a resource for the communities to use to determine policies and procedures that are not directly
addressed by the Constitution, By-Laws or Essentials.  To this end, they will need input from all
committee Chairs listing the policies and procedures represented in each committee.  These will
need to be issues that are not readily available in the Constitution, By-Laws, or Essentials.  Some
examples include, but are certainly not limited to:

 

a.       MEMBERSHIP: 

                                                              i.      How does a community go about the process of chartering, or

                                                            ii.      How many years is training certification valid for?  (2 years, 5 years, etc).

b.      ADMINISTRATION: 

                                                              i.      What are the current officers terms?

                                                            ii.      If a community wants representation on the Secretariat, how would they go about
nominating a candidate?

c.       EXECUTIVE:

                                                              i.      How is “N” determined?

d.      SERVICES:

                                                              i.      What documents are available digitally?

If this information is provided by January 1st, Robert feels this portion of the project can also be
completed by the March meeting.

 

STEP 3)

PROTOCOLS FOR CONTINUATION:

Once they hand off the program, some questions will need to be addressed; likely beyond the purview
of the Policy Committee:

 

1)      Who will be responsible to update the information as new motions are passed and policies or
procedures are changed?

a.       Robert and Marcy offered to take temporary responsibility until protocols are established.

b.      What about keeping the hard copy updated?  Who?

2)      How will the Secretary be provided with updated material prior to each meeting?

a.       A web based database is one solution, but the facilities we use for meetings may or may
not have readily available internet access.

b.      Updated CD prior to each meeting?  By who?

3)      How will communities be able to access the policy and procedure information?

a.       The website is the obvious answer;

b.      Who will have access to update the info?

c.       Will login security be required?

d.      Is our current website capable of hosting such a searchable database?

 

 

PILGRIMS’ GUIDE ISSUES

Mid Hudson formally raised a concern to Secretariat concerning the revised Pilgrim’s Guide.  It was noted
that an email was sent to all Secretariat Members late in July with a request that they review the revisions
and report back with any concerns.  There was no “return by” date, so the assumption was made that it
would be discussed at this meeting.  It was later learned that the revised document has already been sent
to the printer.

 

The concerns were based on possible violations of Article 2.2.2 of the Essentials which state, in part: 
“…All Tres Dias organizations shall stress those things which the Christian denominations have in
common and respect those things that are different…”

 

The concerns included:

-          Use of the term “trespasses” in the Lord’s Prayer with the statement that this was a traditional
rendering.  Mid Hudson’s concern was that different denominations use other terms, such as
debt/debtor or sins.

-          Numbering of the 10 commandments as included in the revision is based on the system used by
Catholics and Lutherans; not by the majority of Protestant denominations.

-          The preamble to the morning and evening prayers include a small cross placed  after the term “Son”
as a superscript.  Mid Hudson’s concern was this icon could cause confusion and may be a
denominational preference.

-          The first paragraph of the preamble contains the sentence “Let your holy angel be with me, that
the evil foe may have no power over me.”
  This was found to be taken directly out of the Lutheran
catechism.

 

One other issue was identified:  The address of Tres Dias International was transcribed incorrectly.  Instead of
20 Slate Hill Drive, Poughkeepsie, NY 12603, the address was written as 20 Slate Hill Road, Poughkeepsie, NY 
12602.

 

The primary concern facing this committee is whether or not Mid Hudson was correct in their assessment that
the 4 issues above are, indeed, violations of the Essentials.  It was agreed that:

 

1)      Although the Pilgrim’s Guide is a non-Essential, any material it contains must be consistent with the
Essentials, and

2)      If it were simply a disagreement over wording, it would not be sufficient to take Secretariat time
to address, but violations of the Essentials are always worthy of our time. 

 

As such, the decision before the committee is simply to determine whether or not they are violations of
the Essentials.  Our findings will be presented to Secretariat for their action if indicated.

 

Prior to beginning the discussions, President Bruce Cato entered the room to advise that Services
Committee will be making the recommendation to stop the printing, if possible, and to remove the
revisions that raised the concern.  Further discussion was tabled at that time.

 

MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES:

 

Although outside the purview of the Policy Committee, the following two items came up during the
discussions and were deemed appropriate to present to the Secretariat:

 

1)      If not already in place, there should be a tool to publish available positions; whether domestic
communities willing to accept observers or foreign communities in need of team members. 
The recommendation was made that the TD website would be a good forum for this.

2)      If a community is struggling with low attendance, finances, etc, how can TDI be made aware of it
and respond appropriately?

 

The formal meeting was adjourned at 3:50 pm.

                                                         

Respectfully submitted,

 

     Jeffrey T. Mehl

 

Jeffrey T. Mehl

Policy Committee Chair

 

________________________________________________________________________

 

Tres Dias, Inc.

PO Box 635

    Wappingers Falls, NY   12590                                 Phone:  845-384-6451

 

MEMORANDUM

 

DATE:                        September 20, 2007                                

 

TO:                 All Chartered Tres Dias Communities, Delegates and Secretariat Members

 

FROM:                       Jeff Mehl;  Chairman, Policy Committee  (PolicyChair@tresdias.org)             

 

RE:                 Blessings to the tune to “Edelweiss” is a violation of copyright laws

__________________________________________________________________________

 

Tres Dias, Inc (TDI) is aware that many Tres Dias communities have developed a non-Essential tradition of singing
 “Blessings” and “Thanks” before and after meals to the tune of the Rodgers & Hammerstein song “Edelweiss.”  

 

TDI has just learned that this practice is a copyright violation and the copyright holder, Williamson Music,
has gone on record as threatening to file lawsuits against anyone, including churches, who use the melody
without permission.  They have, in fact, denied permission to religious groups when requested.  It is
important to note that the CCLI license, which most Tres Dias communities utilize, only permits the use
of the melody with the actual words of the song.  Thus, using the melody without the actual words is not
covered by CCLI and is therefore a copyright violation.

 

As it is the practice of TDI to abide all applicable laws, all communities are hereby directed to immediately
discontinue the practice of using the melody of Edelweiss without the actual words for any reason whatsoever
during any Tres Dias functions.

 

We also ask that any sponsoring communities advise their non-chartered communities of this policy.

 

We realize that the practice of singing “Blessings” and “Thanks” for meals has become an important and
loved tradition and will be missed by those communities who utilize the practice.  However, as it is not
an Essential, it is outside the realm of TDI to develop a replacement.  Communities are free to develop
their own alternatives as long as they are not in violation of any applicable copyright laws.  For instance,
a community might want to consider having the rector approach team members and candidates to say
the blessings prior to and/or following meals.  This is used by many communities in lieu of singing Edelweiss
and serves as an additional means of including candidates in the activities of the weekend. 

 

The following websites are offered to serve as background and a starting point for anyone desiring to
research this decision:

http://www.upperroom.org/chrysalis/article/edelweiss.asp

http://www.gbod.org/worship/music/articles.asp?act=reader&item_id=1764&loc_id=17,19

 

Thank you for your attention.     

          

Jeff Mehl - Policy Chairman

 

________________________________________________________________________________

Services Committee Report 10-27-2007

The meeting opened with prayer.

 

Attendance:

Present: Paul Markowitz, Eric Borman, Ned Heffington, Mike Acevedo,

Judy Borman, Rosie Miloscia, Don Bohl, Mary Hill.

 

Absent: Douglas Pitt, Dan Conely, Ben Seal (non- voting mem.)

Patrick Provost- Smith was voted in as a member with voting status.

 

Discussion: Services had a thorough discussion on the contents of the CD ROM

                        1. What is the history of the decision?

                        2. Discussed ways to help communities not hinder them.

                        3. Proposal completed and submitted.

 

A decision was made to return the project involving the pilgrims guides back to the

Blue Ribbon Committee. It was suggested that all future printing be stopped until

decisions were made and corrections were decided upon. Future printing could be done

with any revised information.

 

4. Data base project is on hold until further discussion of formats. Use of Access as opposed to
Excel will be proposed.

 

Don Bohl and Rosie Miloscia are responsible to oversee the International Newsletter.                    
Various members will contribute the written articles.

 

Newsletter Layout and article submission dates:

Submission of articles by December 1st

First layout complete by December 15th

Publish to website January 2nd.

 

Meeting closed in prayer.


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